Magazine publisher, revisionist historian, noted liar, and iconoclast Timothy Jay Schwab who is The God Culture has a new video questioning whether or not the fish is a Christian Symbol.
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| The Fish: Is It A Symbol of the Bible or the Occult? |
Now, very obviously the fish IS a Christian symbol. One can read the writings of the Church Fathers where it is mentioned or view inscriptions on Christian burial sites in the Roman catacombs and see that is the case. C.R. Morey has a series of articles on the subject.
But with Tim one cannot present that hard evidence because he will not accept it. His thesis is that ANYONE who did not worship on the Sabbath, keep the Mosaic Law, or used symbols of any kind are not part of the true Church.
2:42 Many early church Fathers were definitively occultists and impostors, those who crept in unawares. Watch After the Apostles and we show you what they say and even thier admission that what they were practicing was against the Bible practice. That's what they say whether they realise it or not. They represent a different religion from the Bible and they always have.
15:54 And let me get this straight. The Church generally thinks its ok to use this nephilim symbol of worhsip in our worhsip? Are you kidding?
18:42 I mean who would even care, you know, we use a fish symbol or not? Well, why use it when it's the occult? That's the problem. Just don't . Pretty easy not to use it. Not real hard. Uh, they cite legends from the infiltraters, the impostors, those who crept in unawares, watch After the Apostles, who claim this is, well, included with a Latin acrostic of course identifying Yahuhsha. How stupid.
27:09 This was never their symbol but the fake Church from its inception who profaned everything in worship they possibly can.
There is no point in referring to the Early Church to defend the fish symbol because Tim will not accept the evidence. According to him the Early Church is fake and not the church at all.
Tim goes on to discuss an article from Christianity Today which mentions Tertullian who compares Christians to fish because of baptism.
19:58 But worst this incredibly inept article tries to claim water baptism. Oh fish! Right? Wait a minute. What, what? Are they just ridiculous or what? John the Baptist baptized in fresh water springs. Oops! Watch our Original Canon Series. So, no fish. Stupid.
What does John the Baptist have to do with what Tertullian says? Absolutely nothing. Here is the full quote from Tertullian.
Happy is our sacrament of water, in that, by washing away the sins of our early blindness, we are set free and admitted into eternal life! A treatise on this matter will not be superfluous; instructing not only such as are just becoming formed (in the faith), but them who, content with having simply believed, without full examination of the grounds of the traditions, carry (in mind), through ignorance, an untried though probable faith. The consequence is, that a viper of the Cainite heresy, lately conversant in this quarter, has carried away a great number with her most venomous doctrine, making it her first aim to destroy baptism. Which is quite in accordance with nature; for vipers and asps and basilisks themselves generally do affect arid and waterless places. But we, little fishes, after the example of our ΙΧΘΥΣ Jesus Christ, are born in water, nor have we safety in any other way than by permanently abiding in water; so that most monstrous creature, who had no right to teach even sound doctrine, knew full well how to kill the little fishes, by taking them away from the water!
Tertullian was writing about the sacrament of baptism in response to a false cult that had done away with the practice. Tim does know that Christians are required to be baptised right? Or is water baptism another symbol of the false church?
As for the ICTHYS acrostic Tim calls it a "a nice little story for a nephilim."
21:22 See, he should have, we all should, it appears he or his time made up this fabricated acrostic which is a lie of no value unless you're a nephilim. It's a nice little story for a nephilim. No thank you.
In his condemnation of the fish symbol Tim says something quite odd.
19:39 We discuss the 5,000 being fed which, well they also got bread, you know? Where's the bread in that image? Oh, Duh! Not there.
Where is the bread symbol? Is Tim unaware bread forms half the sacrament of the Eucharist? It's amazing this guy claims to have been a Bible teacher for 30 years and he has no idea about the bread of the Eucharist.
As with all of Tim's videos this is simply unhistoric garbage. His thesis lies less on the fish being a pagan symbol and more on his assertion the Devil infiltrated the Church and turned it into the Synagogue of Satan contrary to the promise of Jesus that He would build His Church and the gates of hell would not prevail against it.
Tim's ridiculous method is on full view in this illiterate video. First, he condemns all symbols as elements of evil appropriated by the Church. He never shows us where the Church confesses to co-opting these symbols or where pagans complain of this practice. Instead he engages in false equivalency. "The pagans used crosses therefore the Christian cross is a pagan symbol." Is he aware of the dying and rising God all throughout mythology? With Tim's method that makes the story of Jesus just another pagan myth.
Secondly, rather than investigate the origin and history of the fish symbol AS USED BY CHRISTIANS, Tim goes for the low hanging fruit of a popular magazine article. I would say it is poor research skills except Tim is not interested in doing any actual research on the topic. From the beginning he has already decided all symbols are evil and the early Church which used symbols was a false impostor Church. It is impossible to reason with Timothy Jay Schwab who is The God Culture because he is stubbornly and willingly ignorant.
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