Welcome back to 100 Lies The God Culture teaches about the Philippines. Today's lie concerns the voyage of Jason and the Argonauts. Timothy Jay Schwab claims Jason and his men sailed the Argo all the way to the Philippines.
In his video "Greek Oceanus World River and Rivers From Eden lead to the Philippines" Tim says the following:
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| Greek Oceanus World River and Rivers From Eden lead to the Philippines? Solomon's Gold Series 16F |
1:00:17 And this one is extremely curious check this out once again very ancient 7th Century BC folks. From Mimnermis Aeetes' city, now that's odd, uh, Aitis, Atus hmm hmm hmm, that's a tribe in the Philippines. How about that? Now that's very curious. Also there's a fruit there, uh, in the Philippines called atis so also that could be invoked but just curious. Uh, we don't know for sure can't make that connection hundred percent but boy we keep seeing such possible ties which don't seem to be coincidence. "Where the Rays of Swift Helios the sun lie in a golden store room." Why is it a golden store room? Because it basically encloses the Garden of Eden. The walls are lined with gold which is why Solomon did such with the temple. He was copying the Garden of Eden, wow! The land of gold literally being invoked right there. "At the edge of Oceanus Where God like Jason went." So Jason and the Argonauts is a story that goes geographically at some point as far as the Philippines which means they circumnavigated Africa because they left from Greece and they didn't fly helicopters.
1:13:54 Even the Aeetes mentioned could be very well the tribe from the Philippines likely. Ends in the land of gold and Garden of Eden Philippines firmly. From Africa goes to the Far East where Prometheus, Gadreel, stole knowledge of Good and Evil giving it to the man while that happened in the Garden of Eden. It all fits, it all ties and they had to circumnavigate Africa all these many times okay? These characters especially in the Odyssey and The Iliad they're going there physically in their ships even Jason and the Argonauts went to the Philippines. That's what it says.
There are quite a lot of unbelievable claims being made in these two clips. First let's deal with the citation of Mimernus which situates Aeetes in Oceanus which is far away from Greece. The fragment of Mimnermus to which Tim is referring is discussed by Strabo in his geography. He says placing that city so far away outside the inhabited world makes the quest of the Golden Fleece implausible because "the expedition is supposed to have taken place in well-known and populous regions."
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| https://archive.org/details/Strabo08Geography17AndIndex/Strabo%2001%20Geography%201-2/page/170/mode/2up?q=jason |
Accordingly, it is by availing himself of some such basis of fact that Homer tells his story, agreeing in some respects with matters of history, but adding to them an element of myth, thus adhering to a custom that is not only his own but one common to poets. He agrees with history when he uses the name of “ Aeétes,” when he tells of Jason and the Argo, when, with “ Aea”’ in mind, he invents “ Aeaea,” when he establishes Euneos in Lemnos, when he makes the island of Lemnos beloved of Achilles, and when, with Medea in mind, he makes the sorceress Circe “own sister to the baleful Aeétes.”
But he adds an element of myth when he transfers to Oceanus the wanderings that follow the voyage to Aeétes’ country. For if the facts above-mentioned be assumed, then the words, “the Argo that is in all men’s minds,” are also properly used, inasmuch as the expedition is supposed to have taken place in well-known and populous regions. But if the facts were as Demetrius of Scepsis maintains, on the authority of Mimnermus _ (Mimnermus places the home of Aeétes in Oceanus, outside the inhabited world in the east, and affirms that Jason was sent thither by Pelias and brought back the fleece), then, in the first place, the expedition thither in quest of the fleece would not sound plausible (since it was directed to unknown and obscure countries), and in the second place, the voyage through regions desolate and uninhabited and so out-of-the-way from our part of the world would be neither famous nor “in all men’s minds.”
But why would Mimnermus add "an element of myth" to the well known story of Jason and the Argonauts? Because as a poet he he adapted and embellished it to fit his own artistic needs.
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| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mimnermus |
Like other archaic poets, Mimnermus adapted myths to his own artistic needs and Aelian recorded that he attributed twenty children to Niobe, unlike Homer, for example, who attributed twelve to her. According to Sallustius, Mimnermus was just as creative in his poetical account of Ismene, representing her as being killed by Tydeus at the command of the goddess, Athena, in the very act of making love to Theoclymenus—an original account that was soon accepted by an international audience, being represented on an early Corinthian amphora (pictured below). Imaginative accounts of the sun, voyaging at night from west to east in a golden bed, and of Jason the Argonaut voyaging to "Aeetes' city, where the rays of the swift Sun lie in a golden storeroom at the edge of Oceanus", survive in brief quotes by ancient authors.
Secondly let's take a look at Aeetes' City. Tim attempts to connect this word linguistically with the Aeta tribe as well as the atis fruit which is not even native to the Philippines but was introduced during the Spanish occupation nearly 2,000 years after Mimnermus lived! Both connections are wrong. Take a close look at the punctuation of the citation.
Aietes' (Aeetes') city
Is Tim illiterate or did he simply miss that apostrophe which indicates possession? Aeetes is not the name of the city but the name of the ruler of that city. Aeetes is the son of the sun God Helios.
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| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeëtes |
Aeëtes was the son of Sun god Helios and the Oceanid Perseis, brother of Circe, Perses and Pasiphaë, and father of Medea, Chalciope and Absyrtus.
It is from him that Jason stole the Golden Fleece.
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| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Fleece |
In Greek mythology, the Golden Fleece is the fleece of the golden-woolled, winged ram, Chrysomallos, that rescued Phrixus and brought him to Colchis, where Phrixus then sacrificed it to Zeus. Phrixus gave the fleece to King Aeëtes who kept it in a sacred grove, whence Jason and the Argonauts stole it with the help of Medea, Aeëtes' daughter. The fleece is a symbol of authority and kingship.
The Golden Fleece was found in Colchis which is also where Aeetes lived.
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| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeëtes |
Later, Aeëtes gave his kingdom to Bounos, a son of Hermes and Alkidameia, and went to Colchis, a country in western Caucasus.
Colchis is by no means anywhere near the Philippines. It is located on the coast of the Black Sea next to Georgia.
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| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colchis |
In classical antiquity and Greco-Roman geography, Colchis was an exonym for the Georgian polity of Egrisi located on the eastern coast of the Black Sea, centered in present-day western Georgia.
Here is a map detailing the travels of Jason and the Argonauts.
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| http://www.argonauts-book.com/maps.html |
Jason and the Argonauts did not sail to the Philippines to find the Golden Fleece. Tim's ridiculous interpretation does not fit the facts of the story at all.
Aside from the Argonauts Tim also mentions the "characters especially in the Odyssey and The Iliad" as visiting the Philippines. Again, this is more nonsense. The Iliad is all about the Trojan war which occurred in Turkey and not about epic traveling around the world. The Odyssey is about the wanderings of Ulysses after the end of the war. Here is a map of his travels.
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| https://www.thinglink.com/scene/837042097440686080 |
Tim's claims about Jason and Ulysses sailing to the Philippines are preposterous. The travels of the Argonauts and the Odyssey are poetic and mythical and the action of those stories takes place nowhere near the Philippines. Tim points to these tales as absolute historical proof that the Greeks were circumnavigating Africa to sail to the Philippines. That is because there is no actual history to support his claims so he is grasping at anything he can get his deceitful paws around. That Jason and the Argonauts sailed to the Philippines is merely one more lie about the Philippines being taught by Timothy Jay Schwab who is The God Culture.
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